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Re: using flat printbeds with Z-Sense -> Buildtak instead of perfboard
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2016, 04:02:57 PM »
What I mostly print these days are Z-Temp product parts, 8 - 12 at a time.

the 2017 batch...

Well that case of mine does not fit 2 times on the perfboard. And of course if you have a working production setup no need to (or better not) change anything.

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Re: using flat printbeds with Z-Sense -> Buildtak instead of perfboard
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2017, 06:17:59 AM »
Hi everyone. I have just installed z-sense on my m200. A very easy installation and it seems to be working great. Everything else on my printer is stock for now. Now I'm wondering, can I print raft-less with ABS after running my z-code through RaftAway? Is it just a case of installing a sheet of PEI or possibly BuildTak?

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Re: using flat printbeds with Z-Sense -> Buildtak instead of perfboard
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2017, 02:45:31 PM »
Hi everyone. I have just installed z-sense on my m200. A very easy installation and it seems to be working great. Everything else on my printer is stock for now. Now I'm wondering, can I print raft-less with ABS after running my z-code through RaftAway? Is it just a case of installing a sheet of PEI or possibly BuildTak?

Yes, pretty much. I haven't done much raftless ABS, I'm sure it will be challenging. Even for PLA, the bed has to be more level than is required with perfboard+raft. Initial nozzle distance needs to be quite small, and bumping up first layer extrusion to 150 - 200% will help. Slowing down the speed some will help too, especially if there's any support in the first layer. My preferred surface is glass with Aquanet hairspray, but people do of course have success with PEI and BuildTak.
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Re: using flat printbeds with Z-Sense -> Buildtak instead of perfboard
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2017, 04:17:50 PM »
Thanks Julia. Glass is sounding quite good. 

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Re: using flat printbeds with Z-Sense -> Buildtak instead of perfboard
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2017, 04:19:34 PM »
Thanks Julia. Glass is sounding quite good.

I did test over the weekend with using blue masking tape & Z-ABS. The part stuck to the tape after a little bit of tweaking in RaftAway (extrusion 150%, speed 50%) but started to curl up at the edges after a few layers. I'd like to try with glass next but I'm guessing ABS is not the best option for raftless printing.

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